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Drago — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:07:09 +0000

I just watch the scene from "Eldorado" where John Wayne teaches James Caan to shoot cacti.
The scene from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" is good too, if you've got some paint cans lying around.

Ayoob, Kapelsohn and Farnum (reply)

Scribe — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:20:21 +0000

Back in the late '80s I took the Mas Ayoob's LFI-1 course, plus the Firestar course (a weekend course taught by Rick Devoid). The following year, I had a weekend course with the Defense Training Institute in North Jersey with Farnum and Kapelsohn.

I brought a custom Smolt (Smith Model 66 plus a 4-inch Python barrel) to LFI-1 and shot .38 +Ps. For the DTI course, I switched to a Sig-Sauer 229 in 9 mm.

Great training from guys who knew what they were talking about.

Scribe

If I may... (reply)

Byron — Tue, 18 Oct 2016 02:49:40 +0000

I have been criticized for this position in the past but I still hold to it.

If your goal is to learn to maybe shoot somebody quick with a sidearm and for sure not get shot yourself (which should be the optimum outcome of any gunfight) the solution is clear.

Train force on force in your backyard in the dark with a flashlight and do it a lot.

Buy two high quality air soft pistols that match your side arm and proper flashlights, head out into your backyard with a friend at night and shoot it out until you both look like you have the measles. Have a couple of beers and do it again half buzzed. Get the hang of point shooting instinctively. Do it until it is hard wired.

A couple of things will become instantly clear.

To stand and deliver will get you shot right off the bat.

If one excepts the fact that 90% of civilian shooting are at conversational distance and most in the dark, the only thing that wins is speed and violence of action.

If you can jerk your sidearm and fire a burst at your man's face as fast as you can while jumping off to the side and running away as fast as you can and don't get shot...your a big winner and that's as good as it gets.

I have spent a fortune at gun slinger courses but some of the best training ever was/is the in back yard with some high school air soft ninjas and it was free.

Force on force is the only way to learn how to not get shot and can be learned at a very high level with very little money in your backward.

I have enjoyed most of the gun slinger courses I have taken however most of them taught marksmanship instead of how to not get shot.

Big difference.

Cheers,

Byron

I forgot u took that JD. When was it? NT (reply)

Bryan — Tue, 18 Oct 2016 02:09:14 +0000

I've take Massad Ayoobs LFI class... It's excellent (reply)

JD — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 19:31:43 +0000

It deals more with the legalities of self defense, and the consequences. It really is a "must have" class for anyone who carries a gun. It slso includes some shooting, but not to the extent of some of the other classes.....

I would like to do that course sometime... (reply)

Bryan — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:51:49 +0000

Rob's invites haven't worked out yet for me but I want to.

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Sarge — Mon, 17 Oct 2016 02:02:19 +0000

I just watch 'Shane' and draw on the mirror ;)

About to head out to my third Gunsite class in a few weeks.. (reply)

matt/pa — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 22:34:27 +0000

It is well, well, well worth it. I know it isn't cheap, but the Gunsite 250 course is really good and well worth the investment.

Just my $0.02

Matt

How many of you have attended gun training courses? (reply)

Byron — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:54:58 +0000

Yes

I don't get training. (reply)

cas — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:58:41 +0000

How many of you have attended gun training courses? (reply)

Cherokee — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:14:24 +0000

Only local training by local trainers. Good results, worth while. Would like to go to a big name trainer but not likely to happen.

Glocks and AKs bro...that's the secret sauce. (reply)

Bryan — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 03:35:01 +0000

You know I razz you...but the stuff does work. It's just ugly and low maintenance but that's the beauty of it.

Still...I love to razz you.

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Rob Leahy — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 00:04:34 +0000

with all the classes I have attended , I was hoping I would be better by now...

How many of you have attended gun training courses? (reply)

stonecoldrc — Sat, 15 Oct 2016 20:42:15 +0000

I took a 5 day handgun course at Thunder Ranch when it was located in Texas and it was great. Plenty of shooting with about 1 to 3 ratio of instructors to students. Clint spent a lot of time with each of us. Shot targets, movers, Fun House, night, etc. Well worth the money in my opinion. A friend came back recently from the new Thunder Ranch in the northwest and had the same good experience. I have taken several one or two day courses with lesser known instructors. Most were very worth while.

How many of you have attended gun training courses?

Bryan — Sat, 15 Oct 2016 20:13:03 +0000

It's something I would like to do next year sometime. Who have you taken instruction with? What was the class and what did you like or not like about it?

I have taken private sporting clays lessons with 2 different world champions. The difference in their teaching styles was dramatic. One I enjoyed and one I definitely did not enjoy. I have yet to attend a private gun course with other students.

Some of the training that interests me is Gunsite, Thunder Ranch and Larry Vickers. If you have feedback on any of those, I would be interested to hear or email me. If there are others that you really enjoyed, I would love to hear about it. If there are some you really didn't like, I would like to hear that too.

At this point, I'm most interested in handgun and carbine courses.

Thanks.