The Frontier Sixshooter Community Message Board - slings can definitely be a problem

slings can definitely be a problem (reply)

bj — Sun, 17 Jan 2016 02:24:32 +0000

I've read that the AR platform is susceptible to sling tension no matter how stiff the barrel is. Everybody in highpower competition uses free-float tubes so the sling does not pull on the barrel. OTOH highpower competition used to be dominated by M1 and M14/M1A rifles, and they don't have free float ability but they do have one-piece wood stocks.

I have a 16" Tactical version in stainless... (reply)

rob — Sat, 16 Jan 2016 02:09:50 +0000

It's a 9" twist and with a 4X scope seems to run the gamut from about 1.5" on ammo it really likes to about 2-2.5" on average and some ammo running in the 4-4.5" range. It's picky but I really like it. My AR will put most ammo pretty much in the same POI but my Mini will put most .223 55 grain in one POI and 55 grain 5.56 about two inches high and two inches left (or right...I disremember). I finally settled on WWB 55 grain 5.56 for serious stuff because it consistently runs 1.5"-2.0" at 100 yards. I was ecstatic to find it shoots the Monarch 55 SP from Academy just as well, maybe better and puts both in the same place. So, with that rifle, those are its two loads. Right now it has no scope on it for the sole purpose of trying to get comfortable with the factory sights and see if I can get used to the peep with my astigmatism. It helped me greatly to cut the little side ears off the front sight, uncluttering the sight picture. For now, I'm shooting the Winchester stuff about 2" at 50 yards and about 6" at 100. I'm just not a fan of peep sights but I AM trying to get it:) I bought a set of XS ghost ring sights for my 10/22 take down and have them installed (but not sighted in yet) and plan to practice with that and put the 4X scope back on the Mini. If I ever get the hang of the ghost ring sights and get really comfortable with them, I may well remove the scope. I love the feel of the rifle without a scope, and I love that (unlike an AR or AK) the gas piston is on the bottom so the sights are closer to the bore where they they belong. I just wish it had AK sights...oddly enough, I can make them work well even with my astigmatism.

match bullet weight to rifling (reply)

uncowboy — Sat, 16 Jan 2016 02:07:33 +0000

my Ruger is more accurate than I expected but if you use a sling it will change impact, Practice will make this acceptable just something to know. J.Michael

match bullet weight to rifling (reply)

bj — Sat, 16 Jan 2016 01:26:23 +0000

People that use AR platform rifles for high power competition use bullets heavier than 55 grains- for the 600 yard stage they will use 75 to 80 grain bullets but this is done for aerodynamics not accuracy. I think the 50-55 grain bullets are likely to be more accurate at shorter ranges.

They are robust and reliable. the initial expence is as high (reply)

Rob Leahy — Sat, 16 Jan 2016 00:17:05 +0000

as an AR and magazines are pretty spendy compared to ubiquitous AR stuff....

Here in TN I use it for a deer rifle- handy, light and our (reply)

stonewalrus — Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:51:18 +0000

Deer aren't all that big.

the new ones have a faster twist - 1 in 7 or 1 in 9 (reply)

Art — Fri, 15 Jan 2016 23:15:24 +0000

I think my Ruger M77 has a 1 in 9 and it will put three 55 grainers in 1/4 to 1/3 of an inch off the bench all day long. However, I think for just plinking the Ranch rifle would be alot more fun. I don't see my self climbing the hills in Wyoming chasing coyotes anymore. Thanks for the feed back.

Art

the new ones have a faster twist - 1 in 7 or 1 in 9 (reply)

stonewalrus — Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:44:58 +0000

Mine is more accurate than I am. I think it will handle whatever you want to run through it. It is obviously not a target rifle. My main complaint is it slings brass into the next county and dings it to boot. With the mount I have I can't put a brass catcher on it. I really do like mine though.

Considering a Ruger Ranch Rifle

Art — Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:25:32 +0000

Would be in 223. Would the 55 gr be accurate as opposed to the heavier ones used in the AR platform? I guess it would depend on the rifleing that Ruger uses. Also, what 100 yard accuracy could one expect with the stock aperture sights?

ART