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<title>What is important to me is that he doesn't CARE... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>... not about widows, wounded warriors, only about himself.  </p>
<p>I've been called lots of things, I'm sure stories have been told about me and some by blow-hards of the first order.  I am long past caring.  The one that should know the truth does and that's all that matters to me.  I am silly and still naive enough to think that should be good enough for everyone.  </p>
<p>It isn't as if Kyle tried to infect Ventura and his family with TB or Ebola...  As to income, well crap, Ventura was a PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER, i.e. spreader of bull feces.  He should be able to use the &quot;notoriety&quot; of the mention as great PR to make money and instead he does this which is harming his rep far more than anything Chris Kyle ever said about him.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Hobie</dc:creator>
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<title>And IIRC a lot of the book money was going to go... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..to charities, they just hadn't nailed down which before he was killed. So he's not only hurting the widow and children, but countless others.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cas</dc:creator>
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<title>There's more than a couple Minnesotans... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not vote for him. In talking to some who did, he was simply the least ridiculous clown to get out of the car that year. Poor justification, but we have some lulus up here, left and right.</p>
<p>JonF, aka bpjon with login issues.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 02:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>JonF</dc:creator>
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<title>Insurance covers all? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;But attorney John Borger, who represented Kyle in her capacity as executor of Chris Kyle’s estate, said Tuesday that insurance won’t cover everything. He said it will cover the $500,000 awarded for defamation, but not the $1.3 million for unjust enrichment.</p>
<p>“All of that comes directly from money that Taya and Chris received from royalties or whatever assets the estate may have,” he said.<br />
Borger also asserted that under the law, the $1.3 million part of the jury’s award is only advisory and the final determination will be up to U.S. District Judge Richard Kyle, no relation to the author. He also said they will be considering all their legal options “in the days and week to come,” including a possible appeal.&quot;</p>
<p>Otony</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Otony</dc:creator>
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<title>I'm no lawyer..... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>......and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.</p>
<p>In my head, I know you and Byron are completely correct. In my heart.....well.</p>
<p>On the face of things, it appears that Ventura offered Kyle the opportunity to get out of this without going to court. It also appears that while the event may not have occurred exactly as told by Kyle, other people present at the time found Ventura offensive and boorish. I think the consensus may have been he &quot;needed a whupping&quot; even if he didn't get one, and the sea story began there....</p>
<p>Unfortunately, both men's egos are/were such that a compromise couldn't be found. Should Kyle have retracted? Yes. But having said that, I think it was incumbent of Ventura to have continued to pursue an alternative solution, rather than drag a grieving woman to court. Yes, she is the representative of the estate, but she is still the widow of a murdered man. Some compassion could have gone a long way, and yet it still ended up in court. </p>
<p>To me that shows a man whose single-minded pursuit of his &quot;reputation&quot; was more important than, oh, um, his reputation. Because to his dying day, he will be remembered as the guy that dragged a woman into court to finish off an argument with her dead husband over whose d**k was bigger, right or wrong.</p>
<p>Otony</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Otony</dc:creator>
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<title>Executor of the Estate is substituted. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The executor or administrator of an estate is substituted when a party dies during a lawsuit. I believe this case was filed long before Kyle's untimely death. It's simply procedure to substitute in both Federal and State Courts. We should also keep in mind that due to Ventura's status as a public figure, the burden of proof on him was considerably heightened. I deal with juries quite often and firmly believe in our system of justice. In my experience, most jurors take their oath seriously and follow the law as instructed by the Court. There are occasions when I'd like to argue they should be allowed a nullification instruction, but I'll leave that soapbox argument for another day.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Wildcat</dc:creator>
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<title>Agreed. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the biggest single reason I can't wait to see this state in my rearview mirror for the last time.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Hoot</dc:creator>
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<title>Barely... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and with pretty good circumstantial evidence that manufactured votes put him over the top.  </p>
<p>Still, that left a whole lot of the state having legitimately voted for that wingnut.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>There's more than a couple Minnesotans... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno. These are the same people who sent Al Franken to the U.S. Senate.<img src="https://sixshootercommunity.com/forum/images/smilies/frown.png" alt=":-(" /></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Well said, indeed..... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.......my disgust has to do with the fact that Ventura chose to pursue the widow. He may well be in the right (and it would appear that he is) regarding his defamation, but he has now successfully smeared his reputation in the eyes of the public, the very thing he was concerned Kyle had done.</p>
<p>Otony</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Otony</dc:creator>
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<title>No dog in the fight..... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take also.  I can understand Jesse wanting to clear his name if it were not true.  The editor is probably thinking &quot;this is why you don't go on record with names unless you have definite proof.&quot;</p>
<p>Bottom line, whether it happened or not, <em>Chris should have never named &quot;scruff-face&quot;</em>.</p>
<p>The money settlement looks really, really bad.  But the lawyers have to get paid.</p>
<p>As usual, everybody except the lawyers lose.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Well said! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>succinct and to the point.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rob Leahy</dc:creator>
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<title>In his book, American Sniper Chris Kyle alledged that &quot;Scruf (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face&quot; stated at a Wake for Fallen SEAL Mike Murphy, &quot;Maybe Some SEALS deserve to die.&quot; At which point Kyle allegedly decked him. Ventura, seems to think this in someway tarnished his shining image in the public's eye. He sued Chris Kyle after the book was released. After Kyle was murdered, Ventura announced that he would continue with the lawsuit against the estate, suing Kyle's Widow and children...He sued for 8 mil jury took 6 days to come up with under one third of  that amount... I am sure it will be appealed  I am also sure that Ventura has pissed off the entire SEAL/VET/Human community...Many of us have donated money and /or bought additional copies of American Sniper to help support A fallen hero's family.<br />
Read more here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americansnipers.org/shop/as-org-promo/custom-donation-98.html">http://www.americansnipers.org/shop/as-org-promo/custom-donation-98.html</a></p>
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 <a href="http://www.funker530.com/jesse-ventura-wins-1-8-million-in-defamation-lawsuit-against-dead-seal-sniper-chris-kyle/">http://www.funker530.com/jesse-ventura-wins-1-8-million-in-defamation-lawsuit-against-d...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rob Leahy</dc:creator>
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<title>No dog in the fight..... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still the whole deal is fishy.</p>
<p>During the trial it became clear that Chris's veracity regarding this situation was clearly lacking.</p>
<p>Prior to being killed he admitted that some of his statements about &quot;Scruff Face&quot; were exaggerations or even untrue.</p>
<p>Prior to the suit Jesse indicated he would be happy with a retraction and apology but Chris refused so Jesse proceeded with the lawsuit.  At the time it was considered to be showboating and without a chance of success...what jury would find in favor of a blowhard washed out politician over a handsome, charismatic real deal war hero.</p>
<p>In the end the jury believed Jesse's eye witness's and evidence more than they believed Chris's and found for Jesse.</p>
<p>The settlement will not come out of the widow's bank account but instead will be payed by the publisher and liability insurance. The question remains if Jesse will even attempt to collect the settlement however all the lawyers will get paid one way or another.</p>
<p>The issue that troubles me is that while I feel that Jesse was within his rights to go after Chris, the family should have been considered completely off limits.</p>
<p>The final result is everyone knows that Chris lied and Jesse is a jerk.</p>
<p>Byron</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Byron</dc:creator>
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<title>There's more than a couple Minnesotans... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who'd like to vote him off the island.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Hoot</dc:creator>
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<title>One thing about it.  My two year old copy (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will always have the passage in it where Jesse gets the Ventura knocked out of him by Chris Kyle. And I do intend to re-read it regularly.  I did donate $25 to the widow yesterday. I expect a letter from Ventura demanding a like amount.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>MR</dc:creator>
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<title>late to the party (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is up with this story? what lawsuit and why?</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Already read the book.... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good book. Another good one is Fearless about Adam Brown.  Also a navy seal killed in action that we the wrong path at when he was younger and turned his slice right around.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
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<title>I ordered as well! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought the Kindle edition AND a paperback version.</p>
<p>Otony</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Otony</dc:creator>
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<title>and American Snipers.org on Facebook is putting... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>together a doozy of a raffle to benefit the Kyle family. Several guns, cases of ammo for each, and probably more to be added.<br />
Mark</p>
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